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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Name Withheld: The job market is rough, I work as a Mechanical Engineer, have 8 years experience and I have an MBA. I feel that I have a solid resume and great experience but I have to admit if I was looking work I am not sure it would be an easy task. That being said, I do have to agree with you somewhat, it seems that more younger people feel entitled and don&#039;t want to work hard. I can see a little bit of that sense of entitlement because school is so crazy expensive now, four years in and tns of thousands of dollars down, I can see how you &quot;expect&quot; a payoff. I prefer to think that this is a result of traditional management vs. newer management models. People are motivated differently now, supposedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name Withheld: The job market is rough, I work as a Mechanical Engineer, have 8 years experience and I have an MBA. I feel that I have a solid resume and great experience but I have to admit if I was looking work I am not sure it would be an easy task. That being said, I do have to agree with you somewhat, it seems that more younger people feel entitled and don&#39;t want to work hard. I can see a little bit of that sense of entitlement because school is so crazy expensive now, four years in and tns of thousands of dollars down, I can see how you &#8220;expect&#8221; a payoff. I prefer to think that this is a result of traditional management vs. newer management models. People are motivated differently now, supposedly.</p>
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		<title>By: nbashaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! I understand even more precisely where we disagree now. Also, thanks for replying - I just realized my tone wasn&#039;t the best in my other comment, and I&#039;m sorry for that. I think you summed up your stance well when you said that &quot;The Michigasm seems to promote shotgunism&quot;. (I think those made up words are awesome - btw). You call for &quot;serious long term strategizing&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s where I become the skeptic - I don&#039;t think we&#039;re smart enough to make the right plan. Things change too much. I think if we encourage everyone to be a &quot;team player&quot; all we do is close off potential routes out of this mess. I don&#039;t think we have the tools to accurately predict ahead of time what the best thing to do is. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So lets grow a forest instead of a farm. We&#039;ll quickly see what will work. Even better, we&#039;ll create an environment of innovation, which is what the economy *really* runs on these days. For a similar point of view you might want to read one of David Brooks&#039; most excellent columns &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06brooks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06bro...&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At bottom, we&#039;re in tension about how things succeed. Implicit in your worldview is the assumption that &quot;resources lead to success&quot;, and implicit in mine is the assumption that &quot;things that work attract resources&quot;. Both are probably true to a greater or lesser extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! I understand even more precisely where we disagree now. Also, thanks for replying &#8211; I just realized my tone wasn&#39;t the best in my other comment, and I&#39;m sorry for that. I think you summed up your stance well when you said that &#8220;The Michigasm seems to promote shotgunism&#8221;. (I think those made up words are awesome &#8211; btw). You call for &#8220;serious long term strategizing&#8221;.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s where I become the skeptic &#8211; I don&#39;t think we&#39;re smart enough to make the right plan. Things change too much. I think if we encourage everyone to be a &#8220;team player&#8221; all we do is close off potential routes out of this mess. I don&#39;t think we have the tools to accurately predict ahead of time what the best thing to do is. </p>
<p>So lets grow a forest instead of a farm. We&#39;ll quickly see what will work. Even better, we&#39;ll create an environment of innovation, which is what the economy *really* runs on these days. For a similar point of view you might want to read one of David Brooks&#39; most excellent columns <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06brooks.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06bro.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06bro..</a>.. </p>
<p>At bottom, we&#39;re in tension about how things succeed. Implicit in your worldview is the assumption that &#8220;resources lead to success&#8221;, and implicit in mine is the assumption that &#8220;things that work attract resources&#8221;. Both are probably true to a greater or lesser extent.</p>
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		<title>By: nbashaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! I understand even more precisely where we disagree now. Also, thanks for replying - I just realized my tone wasn&#039;t the best in my other comment, and I&#039;m sorry for that. I think you summed up your stance well when you said that &quot;The Michigasm seems to promote shotgunism&quot;. (I think those made up words are awesome - btw). You call for &quot;serious long term strategizing&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s where I become the skeptic - I don&#039;t think we&#039;re smart enough to make the right plan. Things change too much. I think if we encourage everyone to be a &quot;team player&quot; all we do is close off potential routes out of this mess. I don&#039;t think we have the tools to accurately predict ahead of time what the best thing to do is. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So lets grow a forest instead of a farm. We&#039;ll quickly see what will work. Even better, we&#039;ll create an environment of innovation, which is what the economy *really* runs on these days. For a similar point of view you might want to read one of David Brooks&#039; most excellent columns &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06brooks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06bro...&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At bottom, we&#039;re in tension about how things succeed. Implicit in your worldview is the assumption that &quot;resources lead to success&quot;, and implicit in mine is the assumption that &quot;things that work attract resources&quot;. Both are probably true to a greater or lesser extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! I understand even more precisely where we disagree now. Also, thanks for replying &#8211; I just realized my tone wasn&#39;t the best in my other comment, and I&#39;m sorry for that. I think you summed up your stance well when you said that &#8220;The Michigasm seems to promote shotgunism&#8221;. (I think those made up words are awesome &#8211; btw). You call for &#8220;serious long term strategizing&#8221;.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s where I become the skeptic &#8211; I don&#39;t think we&#39;re smart enough to make the right plan. Things change too much. I think if we encourage everyone to be a &#8220;team player&#8221; all we do is close off potential routes out of this mess. I don&#39;t think we have the tools to accurately predict ahead of time what the best thing to do is. </p>
<p>So lets grow a forest instead of a farm. We&#39;ll quickly see what will work. Even better, we&#39;ll create an environment of innovation, which is what the economy *really* runs on these days. For a similar point of view you might want to read one of David Brooks&#39; most excellent columns <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06brooks.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06bro.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06bro..</a>.. </p>
<p>At bottom, we&#39;re in tension about how things succeed. Implicit in your worldview is the assumption that &#8220;resources lead to success&#8221;, and implicit in mine is the assumption that &#8220;things that work attract resources&#8221;. Both are probably true to a greater or lesser extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ &quot;Name Withheld&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you so much for commenting! This is really helpful. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you tell us more specifically... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What does a quality resume include?&lt;br&gt;What social networking tools do you recommend for finding jobs?&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s the best way to gain real world experience, and how much (in years) do you like to see?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My personal experience is that I just can&#039;t find out about new nonprofit arts jobs. Potentially it&#039;s a different story in the for-profit arena. NPOs don&#039;t seem to be hiring, and yet there are suddenly new people in specific positions. I&#039;m gainfully employed now, and am better connected via social networking than I was when looking for jobs in that market, though. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyways...</description>
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<p>Thank you so much for commenting! This is really helpful. </p>
<p>Can you tell us more specifically&#8230; </p>
<p>What does a quality resume include?<br />What social networking tools do you recommend for finding jobs?<br />What&#39;s the best way to gain real world experience, and how much (in years) do you like to see?</p>
<p>My personal experience is that I just can&#39;t find out about new nonprofit arts jobs. Potentially it&#39;s a different story in the for-profit arena. NPOs don&#39;t seem to be hiring, and yet there are suddenly new people in specific positions. I&#39;m gainfully employed now, and am better connected via social networking than I was when looking for jobs in that market, though. </p>
<p>Anyways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Name Withheld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Name Withheld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 00:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who employees a lot of creative people in Grand Rapids (the good, high paying kind), the issue that amazes me the most is not the number of candidates applying, it is the lack of applicants that  apply. And when they do apply, most Gen Y&#039;ers seem ill equipped. I consider this a failure of education.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know that the job market is rough out there, but to everyone that complains about a lack of jobs in Grand Rapids, I&#039;d like to ask, where are you? Do you not use the latest social media tools? Do you use your network, or even easier, a network you build on Linked In to connect yourself with me, the person hiring? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sitting on the other side of the table, I find the quality of job candidates to be very frustrating. Not only do most lack the basic skills to find the job openings, they lack quality resume&#039;s, portfolio&#039;s etc. and real world experience to get the job. And when you ask these same candidates what their salary requirements are, it makes me laugh. Somebody, somewhere along the way (whether it is their parents or their college adviser) led them astray and sold them a bill of goods. Most candidates, good and bad, expect too much, too soon, and work with a sense of entitlement. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not alone in this assessment, and discuss this with colleagues who are also hiring, in well placed companies, with good salaries and benefits right here in &quot;beleaguered&quot; West Michigan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So my advice to all of you. Dig deeper, try harder. Get your foot in the door and excel. A career is a marathon, not a sprint, and when you treat it that way the people on &quot;this&quot; side of the table can usually sense it. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who employees a lot of creative people in Grand Rapids (the good, high paying kind), the issue that amazes me the most is not the number of candidates applying, it is the lack of applicants that  apply. And when they do apply, most Gen Y&#39;ers seem ill equipped. I consider this a failure of education.</p>
<p>I know that the job market is rough out there, but to everyone that complains about a lack of jobs in Grand Rapids, I&#39;d like to ask, where are you? Do you not use the latest social media tools? Do you use your network, or even easier, a network you build on Linked In to connect yourself with me, the person hiring? </p>
<p>Sitting on the other side of the table, I find the quality of job candidates to be very frustrating. Not only do most lack the basic skills to find the job openings, they lack quality resume&#39;s, portfolio&#39;s etc. and real world experience to get the job. And when you ask these same candidates what their salary requirements are, it makes me laugh. Somebody, somewhere along the way (whether it is their parents or their college adviser) led them astray and sold them a bill of goods. Most candidates, good and bad, expect too much, too soon, and work with a sense of entitlement. </p>
<p>I am not alone in this assessment, and discuss this with colleagues who are also hiring, in well placed companies, with good salaries and benefits right here in &#8220;beleaguered&#8221; West Michigan.</p>
<p>So my advice to all of you. Dig deeper, try harder. Get your foot in the door and excel. A career is a marathon, not a sprint, and when you treat it that way the people on &#8220;this&#8221; side of the table can usually sense it. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Ruth Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... that was a really long comment I just left you. I think we&#039;re in agreement about the Ends, just not the Means. Also, you&#039;re probably a more positive personality, whereas I tend to be cranky, critical, and pessimistic as a general rule :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; that was a really long comment I just left you. I think we&#39;re in agreement about the Ends, just not the Means. Also, you&#39;re probably a more positive personality, whereas I tend to be cranky, critical, and pessimistic as a general rule <img src='http://generationymichigan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nbashaw, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks a bunch for reading and commenting. Please see my comment above for more about the point of my essay, and for my thoughts on good, sustainable solutions to some of Michigan&#039;s challenges. (Disclaimer: This is all from the perspective of a Grand Rapidian. I’m starting to suspect the climate may be different in cities like Ann Arbor and Detroit.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The main reason I wrote this essay – beyond simply wanting to rant publicly – was to highlight the many capable, passionate, young professionals who simply can&#039;t be effective in their disciplines without well-developed infrastructure(s), and, for whatever reason, aren’t currently able to participate in infrastructure redefinition. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with you that this could be an exciting time--one of unparalleled innovation and – though  I&#039;m totally over this phrase - paradigm shifting. Yet, when the Real Talk about how to coordinate government, nonprofit, private, and individual efforts into a cohesive strategy, the conversation always seems to fall flat. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other thing: My response to &quot;...not everyone can do it.. So what? We shouldn&#039;t try?&quot; is a &quot;Eh. Probably not.&quot; With caveats. I just don&#039;t think people should be encouraged to start things for the sake of starting them. They *should* be encouraged to find their niche is a systemic, sustainable plan for growth and development. It’s the difference between a shotgun approach – everyone starts something new, and only one or two awesome things make it – and a viable, coordinated plan for action – where people are educated and empowered to develop their ideas in a way that the majority of new initiatives have a real shot. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Michigasm seems to promote shotgunism. (Yes, I like to make up words.) I don’t see it getting people excited about something sustainable, or connecting people to tools they need to create viable new enterprises. I think we have enough motivated, talented people – at least in GR – that we’re beyond pumping ourselves up with positive creative class PR, and should be moving on to serious long term strategizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nbashaw, </p>
<p>Thanks a bunch for reading and commenting. Please see my comment above for more about the point of my essay, and for my thoughts on good, sustainable solutions to some of Michigan&#39;s challenges. (Disclaimer: This is all from the perspective of a Grand Rapidian. I’m starting to suspect the climate may be different in cities like Ann Arbor and Detroit.)</p>
<p>The main reason I wrote this essay – beyond simply wanting to rant publicly – was to highlight the many capable, passionate, young professionals who simply can&#39;t be effective in their disciplines without well-developed infrastructure(s), and, for whatever reason, aren’t currently able to participate in infrastructure redefinition. </p>
<p>I agree with you that this could be an exciting time&#8211;one of unparalleled innovation and – though  I&#39;m totally over this phrase &#8211; paradigm shifting. Yet, when the Real Talk about how to coordinate government, nonprofit, private, and individual efforts into a cohesive strategy, the conversation always seems to fall flat. </p>
<p>Other thing: My response to &#8220;&#8230;not everyone can do it.. So what? We shouldn&#39;t try?&#8221; is a &#8220;Eh. Probably not.&#8221; With caveats. I just don&#39;t think people should be encouraged to start things for the sake of starting them. They *should* be encouraged to find their niche is a systemic, sustainable plan for growth and development. It’s the difference between a shotgun approach – everyone starts something new, and only one or two awesome things make it – and a viable, coordinated plan for action – where people are educated and empowered to develop their ideas in a way that the majority of new initiatives have a real shot. </p>
<p>The Michigasm seems to promote shotgunism. (Yes, I like to make up words.) I don’t see it getting people excited about something sustainable, or connecting people to tools they need to create viable new enterprises. I think we have enough motivated, talented people – at least in GR – that we’re beyond pumping ourselves up with positive creative class PR, and should be moving on to serious long term strategizing.</p>
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