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	<description>A look at the reasons why young adults are or are not staying in Michigan</description>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan Leads Nation in Biggest Cut to Arts Funding by gucci bags</title>
		<link>http://generationymichigan.org/2010/01/12/michigan-leads-nation-in-biggest-cut-to-arts-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>gucci bags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice</description>
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		<title>Comment on Community Ties: Tying People to Their Michigan Community by Polasky</title>
		<link>http://generationymichigan.org/2010/02/18/community-ties-tying-people-to-their-michigan-community/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Polasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that in cities like Las Vegas, Los Angeles and San Francisco there is a drastically larger percentage of the &quot;young professionals&quot; crowd, especially in small towns most of the people that live there are older and very conservative and old fashioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that in cities like Las Vegas, Los Angeles and San Francisco there is a drastically larger percentage of the &#8220;young professionals&#8221; crowd, especially in small towns most of the people that live there are older and very conservative and old fashioned.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Left Michigan, But Will (Probably) Come Back by steve</title>
		<link>http://generationymichigan.org/2010/01/20/why-i-left-michigan-but-will-probably-come-back/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great insight Rob, I agree with much of what you said and can tell you are passionate about the state as a whole. I know you will make a difference in whatever you do - Michigan really needs it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insight Rob, I agree with much of what you said and can tell you are passionate about the state as a whole. I know you will make a difference in whatever you do &#8211; Michigan really needs it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Stay in Michigan? by Tiff</title>
		<link>http://generationymichigan.org/2009/10/30/why-stay-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left Michigan in 2005 and am now desperately trying to move back.  Michigan is absolutely beautiful and has a lot to offer despite the current economic problems.  I know MI is being hit hardest, remember all states are suffering.  I moved from MI to Denver and Denver is having it&#039;s fair share of problems.  I miss the culture in MI.  Denver is culturally stagnant and I don&#039;t think people are particularly nice here.  I miss my friends so much.  I miss trips up north.  I miss the bodies of water.  I went to nursing school in CO and have been working for a year now, and I&#039;m ready to return to my roots and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left Michigan in 2005 and am now desperately trying to move back.  Michigan is absolutely beautiful and has a lot to offer despite the current economic problems.  I know MI is being hit hardest, remember all states are suffering.  I moved from MI to Denver and Denver is having it&#39;s fair share of problems.  I miss the culture in MI.  Denver is culturally stagnant and I don&#39;t think people are particularly nice here.  I miss my friends so much.  I miss trips up north.  I miss the bodies of water.  I went to nursing school in CO and have been working for a year now, and I&#39;m ready to return to my roots and friends.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Left Michigan, But Will (Probably) Come Back by Rob</title>
		<link>http://generationymichigan.org/2010/01/20/why-i-left-michigan-but-will-probably-come-back/comment-page-1/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t mean to turn this into an argument. I think your piece is well written, and makes some good points. I also agree with Tyler&#039;s point that, if given the opportunity, people should live elsewhere...at least for a little while. It&#039;s important to experience other cities and other countries. I have done both.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose I&#039;m looking at this from a slightly different light than you. I&#039;m from Detroit, not west Michigan. Yes, Michigan as a whole has it&#039;s issues, but when you drive through Detroit and look at all of the plight and decay, I can&#039;t help but ask myself &quot;What can I do?&quot; not &quot;How can I get out of here?&quot; The beautiful buildings and factories that built this country and helped win wars have been left to rot. It&#039;s sad. The people of this state (unfortunately) can&#039;t relay on government and public policy to change things, it has to be grassroots.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to make it clear that I&#039;m looking at this issue from a &quot;young persons&quot; perspective. If you have a family to support, then you have to do what you have to do to. However, I know so many young people who leave Detroit and Michigan with no goals, They&#039;re simply concerned about what they&#039;re going to do on Saturday night and figure Chicago, New York, LA etc., etc. have more options. So they look for jobs there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There may not be a lot of jobs in the state right now, but there is a lot work to be done.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose I don&#039;t appreciate this attitude (and this isn&#039;t directed towards you) of &quot;I&#039;ll come back when the problems are fixed&quot;, rather than coming back to help fix the problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I don&#39;t mean to turn this into an argument. I think your piece is well written, and makes some good points. I also agree with Tyler&#39;s point that, if given the opportunity, people should live elsewhere&#8230;at least for a little while. It&#39;s important to experience other cities and other countries. I have done both.</p>
<p>I suppose I&#39;m looking at this from a slightly different light than you. I&#39;m from Detroit, not west Michigan. Yes, Michigan as a whole has it&#39;s issues, but when you drive through Detroit and look at all of the plight and decay, I can&#39;t help but ask myself &#8220;What can I do?&#8221; not &#8220;How can I get out of here?&#8221; The beautiful buildings and factories that built this country and helped win wars have been left to rot. It&#39;s sad. The people of this state (unfortunately) can&#39;t relay on government and public policy to change things, it has to be grassroots.</p>
<p>I want to make it clear that I&#39;m looking at this issue from a &#8220;young persons&#8221; perspective. If you have a family to support, then you have to do what you have to do to. However, I know so many young people who leave Detroit and Michigan with no goals, They&#39;re simply concerned about what they&#39;re going to do on Saturday night and figure Chicago, New York, LA etc., etc. have more options. So they look for jobs there.</p>
<p>There may not be a lot of jobs in the state right now, but there is a lot work to be done.</p>
<p>I suppose I don&#39;t appreciate this attitude (and this isn&#39;t directed towards you) of &#8220;I&#39;ll come back when the problems are fixed&#8221;, rather than coming back to help fix the problems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lansing&#8217;s Entrepreneurial Revival by Home Business Ideas</title>
		<link>http://generationymichigan.org/2010/02/26/lansings-entrepreneurial-revival/comment-page-1/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Home Business Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing this good article.  I agree that Michigan has a lot of business opportunities and ideas there.  It&#039;s just there are people don&#039;t know how to be a good entrepreneur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing this good article.  I agree that Michigan has a lot of business opportunities and ideas there.  It&#39;s just there are people don&#39;t know how to be a good entrepreneur.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Left Michigan, But Will (Probably) Come Back by Tyler</title>
		<link>http://generationymichigan.org/2010/01/20/why-i-left-michigan-but-will-probably-come-back/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 03:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of your arguments have merit.&lt;br&gt;1.) Everyone should get out of Michigan and see the world, if they have the means. The value of getting outside your bubble cannot be understated. In spite of my reputation as an epic storyteller, I&#039;ve never quite found a way to convey what it&#039;s like to experience a different culture. And though I have been out of the country and spent time in Europe and also within the country with various latinos, even spending time in Chicago, Boston, down south, etc is invaluable. That does not, however, mean that it is necessary to look outside of the state for work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.) There are jobs in the state of Michigan...with a footnote.&lt;br&gt;It took me two months to find a job, and I graduated with nearly a 4.0 and quite a bit of on and off campus involvement, relevant work experience, and a mean set of interview skills. But what ultimately separated me was the willingness to accept job hunting as a 40-60 hr per week job until I actually found employment. Far too many young people get their diplomas and assume that the piece of paper they just spent (sometimes wasted dare I say?) $80k on means employers will come looking for them.&lt;br&gt;This is not the case.&lt;br&gt;For more on this, see&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mazzletof.blogspot.com/2010/03/bachelors-degree-new-standard-unedited.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mazzletof.blogspot.com/2010/03/bachelors...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In regards to the &quot;grass is always greener&quot; mentality, I would tend to agree with Rob that it&#039;s somewhat of a pandemic/false ideology. People in the state of Michigan have taken this &quot;in this economy&quot; excuse way too far. At the first sign of difficulty finding work, people sit back and just throw their arms up and say, &quot;well, it&#039;s Michigan. There&#039;s nothing I can do. I guess I&#039;ll just ride unemployment until I have to look out of state.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a friend, let&#039;s call him McGoo, who has worked as a cable company dispatcher since he graduated 3 years ago. Every time I speak with him, he talks about how much he hates it, how it&#039;s a dead end job, etc etc.&lt;br&gt;&quot;Man, I&#039;m willing to take anything at this point, as long as I don&#039;t have to work at __________ any more.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So shortly after I found a full-time job, with McGoo in mind, I called him up to turn him onto my hanging job leads.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I gave him approximately 10 options, and when I finished explaining the different opportunities, he said, &quot;well, that doesn&#039;t sound like anything I&#039;m looking for. I&#039;m pretty much holding out for a finance job. I&#039;ve accepted that I&#039;m probably going to have to start looking out of state because the economy here sucks.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem is that I&#039;m not even sure he knows the first thing about finance, and he&#039;s just got a negative, complacent attitude.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you refer to the link (article) above, I explain that this is a multi-fold issue.&lt;br&gt;Many people that go to college should not go to college. They slack through high school, ride daddy&#039;s dime to college, drink, sleep and fornicate their way through a 4 year degree, and then can&#039;t figure out why they can&#039;t find work when they go to interviews with generic responses they found on &quot;about.com&quot;&lt;br&gt;Or they just never had the mental capacity to pursue white collar America and would have been much better served taking on a trade of some kind (which we NEED and will always need).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Small business owners and corporate human resources people can smell a slacker/BS&#039;er from a mile away. I&#039;ve heard horror stories already at my work about resumes that looked impressive and promising, only to have and interview with someone about as dynamic as drying concrete.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I love this topic and this &quot;debate&quot; and I&#039;d love to get feedback on my article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of your arguments have merit.<br />1.) Everyone should get out of Michigan and see the world, if they have the means. The value of getting outside your bubble cannot be understated. In spite of my reputation as an epic storyteller, I&#39;ve never quite found a way to convey what it&#39;s like to experience a different culture. And though I have been out of the country and spent time in Europe and also within the country with various latinos, even spending time in Chicago, Boston, down south, etc is invaluable. That does not, however, mean that it is necessary to look outside of the state for work.</p>
<p>2.) There are jobs in the state of Michigan&#8230;with a footnote.<br />It took me two months to find a job, and I graduated with nearly a 4.0 and quite a bit of on and off campus involvement, relevant work experience, and a mean set of interview skills. But what ultimately separated me was the willingness to accept job hunting as a 40-60 hr per week job until I actually found employment. Far too many young people get their diplomas and assume that the piece of paper they just spent (sometimes wasted dare I say?) $80k on means employers will come looking for them.<br />This is not the case.<br />For more on this, see<br /><a href="http://mazzletof.blogspot.com/2010/03/bachelors-degree-new-standard-unedited.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://mazzletof.blogspot.com/2010/03/bachelors.." rel="nofollow">http://mazzletof.blogspot.com/2010/03/bachelors..</a>.</p>
<p>In regards to the &#8220;grass is always greener&#8221; mentality, I would tend to agree with Rob that it&#39;s somewhat of a pandemic/false ideology. People in the state of Michigan have taken this &#8220;in this economy&#8221; excuse way too far. At the first sign of difficulty finding work, people sit back and just throw their arms up and say, &#8220;well, it&#39;s Michigan. There&#39;s nothing I can do. I guess I&#39;ll just ride unemployment until I have to look out of state.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have a friend, let&#39;s call him McGoo, who has worked as a cable company dispatcher since he graduated 3 years ago. Every time I speak with him, he talks about how much he hates it, how it&#39;s a dead end job, etc etc.<br />&#8220;Man, I&#39;m willing to take anything at this point, as long as I don&#39;t have to work at __________ any more.&#8221;</p>
<p>So shortly after I found a full-time job, with McGoo in mind, I called him up to turn him onto my hanging job leads.</p>
<p>I gave him approximately 10 options, and when I finished explaining the different opportunities, he said, &#8220;well, that doesn&#39;t sound like anything I&#39;m looking for. I&#39;m pretty much holding out for a finance job. I&#39;ve accepted that I&#39;m probably going to have to start looking out of state because the economy here sucks.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is that I&#39;m not even sure he knows the first thing about finance, and he&#39;s just got a negative, complacent attitude.</p>
<p>If you refer to the link (article) above, I explain that this is a multi-fold issue.<br />Many people that go to college should not go to college. They slack through high school, ride daddy&#39;s dime to college, drink, sleep and fornicate their way through a 4 year degree, and then can&#39;t figure out why they can&#39;t find work when they go to interviews with generic responses they found on &#8220;about.com&#8221;<br />Or they just never had the mental capacity to pursue white collar America and would have been much better served taking on a trade of some kind (which we NEED and will always need).</p>
<p>Small business owners and corporate human resources people can smell a slacker/BS&#39;er from a mile away. I&#39;ve heard horror stories already at my work about resumes that looked impressive and promising, only to have and interview with someone about as dynamic as drying concrete.</p>
<p>I love this topic and this &#8220;debate&#8221; and I&#39;d love to get feedback on my article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Left Michigan, But Will (Probably) Come Back by steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would challenge you, Rob, as to where these jobs are being offered. Most of the other posters agree with my sentiments.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the mismegement of state budgets as well as a downturn in manufacturing has caused the recession moreso than your proposition that people use the &quot;grass is always greener&quot; ideology. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many times, like I said in my post, its not about making a difference where it is needed most. Its about living your life and seeing what else is out there. I, for one, am glad that I moved out of West Michigan - as beautiful as it is - to at least see what else the world has to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would challenge you, Rob, as to where these jobs are being offered. Most of the other posters agree with my sentiments.</p>
<p>I think the mismegement of state budgets as well as a downturn in manufacturing has caused the recession moreso than your proposition that people use the &#8220;grass is always greener&#8221; ideology. </p>
<p>Many times, like I said in my post, its not about making a difference where it is needed most. Its about living your life and seeing what else is out there. I, for one, am glad that I moved out of West Michigan &#8211; as beautiful as it is &#8211; to at least see what else the world has to offer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan Leads Nation in Biggest Cut to Arts Funding by SEO Pricing &#124; Cost &#124; Charges</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO Pricing &#124; Cost &#124; Charges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bookmarked the podcast, will listen when time permits.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Left Michigan, But Will (Probably) Come Back by SEO Pricing &#124; Cost &#124; Charges</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO Pricing &#124; Cost &#124; Charges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen Kokx, the post looks very interesting ,hope you return soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen Kokx, the post looks very interesting ,hope you return soon.</p>
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